exref
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Post by exref on May 6, 2023 16:53:18 GMT -5
Gallant and Rangers mutually agree to part ways.
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Post by bob01 on May 6, 2023 17:13:45 GMT -5
AS usual, the innocent are punished and the guilty continue on as before.
This organization is doomed.
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Post by exref on May 6, 2023 17:24:55 GMT -5
I saw one article that said player feedback was taken into consideration. So a bunch of underachieving, overpaid softies pass the blame onto the coach. Unfortunately that's the way it usually works.
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Post by Nicky22 on May 6, 2023 21:18:12 GMT -5
I do have to say, I'm more than a little concerned at this apparent argument between Gallant and Drury. Was it just a heat of the moment thing or does it suggest something more? And the fact that we haven't heard a peep from Drury since the Rangers were eliminated is pretty telling. Let's be honest, whenever there is a rift between the GM and the coach, the GM will always win that battle as the GM has the power to fire the coach, not the other way around. I hope that isn't the case here, Gallant has done a good job in two seasons with the Rangers and it would be a huge mistake to fire him. Bingo! Gallant fired, and it's on to the next coach. Another change of styles to learn |
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Post by RWB75 on May 6, 2023 23:25:31 GMT -5
Front office needs to blow this team of lazy underachievers up. I'm tired of the same old shit year after year. New coach same shit over and over. Look at the 2012 team barely had one line of tuxedos, the rest were hardhats as RR put it. Give me that type of hockey any day of the week and none of this passive pussyfied shit we got now.
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Post by PG67 on May 6, 2023 23:34:59 GMT -5
Front office needs to blow this team of lazy underachievers up. I'm tired of the same old shit year after year. New coach same shit over and over. Look at the 2012 team barely had one line of tuxedos, the rest were hardhats as RR put it. Give me that type of hockey any day of the week and none of this passive pussyfied shit we got now. I think the front office is the actual problem. |
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Post by RWB75 on May 6, 2023 23:41:36 GMT -5
Front office needs to blow this team of lazy underachievers up. I'm tired of the same old shit year after year. New coach same shit over and over. Look at the 2012 team barely had one line of tuxedos, the rest were hardhats as RR put it. Give me that type of hockey any day of the week and none of this passive pussyfied shit we got now. I think the front office is the actual problem. The garden troll is the real problem and we're stuck with him for infinity. |
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Post by PG67 on May 7, 2023 0:08:20 GMT -5
I think the front office is the actual problem. The garden troll is the real problem and we're stuck with him for infinity. Yup. I'm starting to sense that this is really is what's going - when all is said and done.
One of the NHL segments lately I've seen over the last few days reminded us that Gallant's record with the Rangers was 99 wins and 46 losses.
Last year's success was with him coming in as a new coach to this team and the team far exceeded expectations.
Drury couldn't get deals done to keep certain guys here because of the salary cap poor MANAGEMENT!
So here we are with a roster of puck-chasers, some of whom are actual lazy players.
Is that on Gallant? I say no.
As I said the other day, that may be 10-15% on him. The rest? Well...he had to find a way of working with the roster that DRURY GAME HIM.
Through VARIOUS coaches over the last several years, this organization is STILL trying to put together a team that has chemistry and the RIGHT PLAYERS to do the job, night in and night out. It's one step forward, three steps back ONCE AGAIN. It's the same shit over and over and over again. It's so ridiculous at this point.
That proves with no doubt in my mind, that the COACH is not the problem.
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Post by NYR112935 on May 7, 2023 8:11:05 GMT -5
Gallant is a good coach, but not without his shortcomings. For one he severely lacked the ability to motivate his players. Secondly he made almost no adjustments when the opponent counteracted what we were doing to be successful. He also didn’t put our younger forwards in positions to succeed often. I’m interested to see who they hire. I really like Daryl Sutter, but he would clash with all these so called “stars.” I think he’d be great for Kakko and Laffy though.
Drury is the biggest surprise to me. Last year he tabbed some lesser known quality players that didn’t have the name recognition, but fit in seamlessly with the team. This year was a complete different approach, which also leads me to believe there was pressure from above. He was a high character, and for his size a gritty player in his playing days. So he of all people knows it takes more then just skill to win. Whether it was pressure from Dolan, or his own doing. Hopefully he learned something from it, and does it his way in the future.
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Post by NYR112935 on May 7, 2023 8:25:05 GMT -5
A lot of people seem to forget how good Igor Shesterkin is. He’s covered up a lot of this teams shortcomings the last couple of seasons. He definitely made Gallant’s record look a lot better then it should’ve been in his time with us. Again, he’s a good coach. I think we can do better though.
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Post by Double R on May 7, 2023 8:46:24 GMT -5
A lot of people seem to forget how good Igor Shesterkin is. He’s covered up a lot of this teams shortcomings the last couple of seasons. He definitely made Gallant’s record look a lot better then it should’ve been in his time with us. Again, he’s a good coach. I think we can do better though. Perhaps. But what coach is out there who could have done better? As far as I can tell, there are not a hell of a lot of options to choose from. |
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Post by nyrfan16 on May 7, 2023 10:49:29 GMT -5
I don't know what the right answer is, but I do know there was precious little time after the trade deadline to get line combos to get comfortable with one another. Gallant was changing line combos right up to the last period of the season trying to provide a spark, but it could have been counter productive. He finally puts Kane on the second PP, but he waits till game 6 to do it. The devils had figured out how to stop our PP success by game 3. I've watched just about every playoff game thus far and there isn't one team out there that consistency looked as bad as the rangers did in games 4,5,and 7. Having a stinker or two happens. Three in one playoff series? The players can't get fired, so the next option is to get a fresh face behind the bench.
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Post by nyrfan16 on May 7, 2023 11:10:19 GMT -5
Gallant is a good coach, but not without his shortcomings. For one he severely lacked the ability to motivate his players. Secondly he made almost no adjustments when the opponent counteracted what we were doing to be successful. He also didn’t put our younger forwards in positions to succeed often. Can't disagree with this. Hopefully the new coach will give the kid line more minutes. Between the three of them they accumulated 12 PP points this season. All three had decent plus / minus stats, while Panerin and Vinnie barely were in the plus. Speaking of Vinnie, love the guy, but move him down to the third line. He's a checking center. He gets paid big bucks, but Chytil is making 1.2 mil. less now due to his new contract. |
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Post by NYR112935 on May 7, 2023 11:23:51 GMT -5
A lot of people seem to forget how good Igor Shesterkin is. He’s covered up a lot of this teams shortcomings the last couple of seasons. He definitely made Gallant’s record look a lot better then it should’ve been in his time with us. Again, he’s a good coach. I think we can do better though. Perhaps. But what coach is out there who could have done better? As far as I can tell, there are not a hell of a lot of options to choose from. There aren’t Double R, but the season isn’t over yet. There will be more guys available come summer. I liked the guy, but coaching is all about timing. For better or worse this group doesn’t respond to him anymore. A different voice is needed. The players fundamentally as a group need to be better. |
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Post by NYR112935 on May 7, 2023 11:26:26 GMT -5
Gallant is a good coach, but not without his shortcomings. For one he severely lacked the ability to motivate his players. Secondly he made almost no adjustments when the opponent counteracted what we were doing to be successful. He also didn’t put our younger forwards in positions to succeed often. Can't disagree with this. Hopefully the new coach will give the kid line more minutes. Between the three of them they accumulated 12 PP points this season. All three had decent plus / minus stats, while Panerin and Vinnie barely were in the plus. Speaking of Vinnie, love the guy, but move him down to the third line. He's a checking center. He gets paid big bucks, but Chytil is making 1.2 mil. less now due to his new contract. Yes. Especially the part about Vinnie. Watching him in the Carolina series last year compared to this playoff. Was like watching 2 completely different players. I think the player I’m most excited about is Schneider. I thought out of a disappointing series he was a bright spot. |
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