Don't make light of William's call on the last play of the game,Joey. Given the circumstances,designing an all out blitz,leaving the two cornerbacks one on one with receivers faster than them was suicidal. The result certainly benefited the long term future of the Jets,but not the defensive coordinator. He was fired this morning and with good reason. In all probability this along with the bounty he placed on opposing skill players when with the Saints will be his legacy. In my opinion he'll have a difficult time finding a job as an assistant high school coach.
I feel badly for young Lamar Jackson who was hung out to dry trying to avoid separation from 4.27 40,Henry Ruggs. It doesn't take a genius to know down.distance,time and score,subsequently putting your group of athletes in the best position to win. Playing 'zero' cover in that situation would be enough to get Knute Rockne and Vince Lombardi fired let alone this lunatic! There was no conspiracy here Joey. This was Williams call. If it came from up above he wouldn't have been fired.
Upper management wouldn't dare,because the ramifications would have been disastrous. Any guess who the whistleblower would be? That would be the narcissist himself,namely Gregg Williams!!
The next coach will arguably be the most important decision for Douglas(IT SHOULD BE HIS CALL AND HIS ALONE)and in Franchise history for that matter!!! I say that because the culture of the NY Jets has never been worse. It must change before it makes the Franchise irrelevant.
We must blow this coaching situation up from top to bottom,perhaps with the exception of Hines Ward. Creating a blank sheet and inviting change will be the best way to get Trevor Lawrence to become a Jet. To reiterate the theme of my past thread,give Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney a blank check and suggest he bring his QB coach and OC along with him!! There have been wild rumors of Bill Cowher coming out of retirement to accept the Jets job. He's been in the studio and away from the sidelines for 15 years now and will be 64 years old before the start of next season. The Game has changed considerably since 2006(his final year as Steelers coach). Being from the old school may be all well and good,but relating to todays players might be too difficult a task for Grandpa Bill.
Don't think I was making light of the call at all. Was highlighting the fact that Boomer and Cowher each were scratching their heads at the call. The fact that he's now gone is, practically speaking, the best thing that could ever happen to the Jets, simply because Douglas can now do what a GM is supposed to do: hire his own coach(there won't be any talk of retaining Williams after Gase is gone). It's kind of like the President coming up with a new cabinet....there will be talks galore between the GM and prospective head coach over who they want as the coordinators, etc. So, good, let's take out the broom. I am surprised, however, because I had thought that Williams was supposed to be an excellent defensive coach. And the Jets, I believe, were 3rd in the league against the run...of course maybe because everyone passes against his secondary! Oh, well, it's all under the rug now. Let's see what the rest of the season brings.....next week against Seattle should be a no-brainer.
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I should have clarified my thought regarding how you presented Esiason's reaction to William's unforgivable call. He was giving too much credit to Williams with his silly conspiracy theory,but at the same time suggested that the Jets GM should not allow him to ever step foot into the clubhouse for another day. I didn't see or hear Cowher's reaction but Boomer was doing more than scratching his head on this mornings WFAN show.
No doubt Cowher is spot on. Any coach worth his weight(That includes Gase)would make sure to flood the field with DB's,guarding both the sidelines and end zone,keeping the play in the middle of the field,making it impossible to run another play. That also applies to the play before the winner. Had Carr not overthrown ex Eagle Agholor he would have been able to catch the ball with room to spare and walk into the end zone. That in itself makes William's final call even worse. You'd think he'd make sure enough players make it impossible for a receiver to get behind them.
Lets not forget the meek play calling by Gase/Loggains after the defense stopped Las Vegas on what should have been their final possession. There is enough of a losing culture and blame to share for the entire Organization as they continue to spread and spew it on and off the field.
Looking ahead I'm not sold on the Jets not stumbling into a win. Seattle worries me. Once having a premier defensive backfield, despite Adam's presence they're now horrid as a group. The other seven aren't much better. Offensively their interior line has gotten progressively worse each week. I've never seen Wilson as helpless as he is now. That said with super WR Metcalf healthy Wilson should still find a way to get him the ball and ultimately outscore Darnold. As the game progresses Sam unfortunately regresses.The Jets have ruined the kid. He's lost here and deserves a better fate elsewhere.
If Bill Parcells was back in the building, I think Sam would not be ruined anymore. He's fought through the total chaos that is the Jets. Given a chance in any NFL quality organization, he will shine. Given an offensive line, given some WR's, given a tight end, you'd see a different player. After all, it is still a team sport. That's why, despite the fact that Seattle's prowess may be on the decline, the Jets will still find a way (to lose!). But stumble into a win is indeed the correct choice of words! My biggest concern is that, if we get him, Trevor Lawrence will become similarly afflicted by Jetsdom. My only true hope is that Joe Douglas does know what he's doing, and he's going to make the correct hire of a head coach this offseason. Hopefully, then, maybe, finally, we'll be on our way again. There is enough of a nucleus on this club. Yes, glaring holes, lots of 'em, but not totally without promise...
I've always been an advocate for Sam Darnold but despite the dysfunction culture remaining in Jetsland being a legitimate excuse,there have been some disturbing signs regarding the young QB. Reading defenses and decision making are natural skills. You're either are blessed with them or you aren't. Its becoming more apparent week after week Sam is challenged in that area. usually his first drive of the day is productive. As the Game progresses and the defenses settle in and pick up intensity Sam regresses. That is when vision,reading,recognizing and ultimately deciding separates success from failure.
Perhaps Sam can improve in that area and needs more time,but as important as it is for the kid to improve his decision making with Trevor Lawrence possibly available the Jets must make a decision also.
Any coach worth his weight(That includes Gase)would make sure to flood the field with DB's,guarding both the sidelines and end zone,keeping the play in the middle of the field,making it impossible to run another play.
Newsday article reported that Gase said he should have called a time out and called for another defense, and he's not saying this retrospectively. He's saying he thought about it in real time. So, my question becomes, why didn't he do it? If he thought it wrong, stop the game! If he thought it wrong and went ahead anyway, you don't fire the defensive coordinator....unless, of course, you were waiting in the weeds for just such an opportunity.....if he admits it was his ultimate responsibility, management should have fired Gase.....but it's all moot since he's gone in 4 more games anyway. This weekend, look for the Jets to stink it up in Seattle. I think by firing Williams the defense puts it behind them, as it's resolved....i think if he hadn't been fired, psychologically, they're in limbo and don't put forth a full effort.... so from that point of view, it might help....but really, does it even matter?
Haven't seen Lawrence play. The NFL is salivating. The Jets might get him. He might be Jeff George. Being a Jets fan, when there's a can't miss, I get antsy....
I couldn't conceive Trevor Lawrence would ever resemble Jeff George,even if a member of the black hole known as the NY Jets. His decision making ability alone would never allow that to happen. Jeff George was blessed with a howitzer of an arm,but cursed with a rock for a head.
That said,I hear ya Joey. Only the Jets could morph chicken salad into chicken shit. They are in dire need of a culture change. Wow what an understatement!!!!