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Post by Double R on Oct 2, 2020 9:02:53 GMT -5
What a deflection by Nils for the backdoor goal.Hes got some great hands for a defenseman Nils looks like he's going to be a big part of the Rangers youth on the blueline, along with Miller, Lindgren, DeAngelo, Fox, Robertson, etc. |
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Post by NoMore1940 on Oct 2, 2020 11:47:50 GMT -5
What a deflection by Nils for the backdoor goal.Hes got some great hands for a defenseman Nils looks like he's going to be a big part of the Rangers youth on the blueline, along with Miller, Lindgren, DeAngelo, Fox, Robertson, etc. Just to refresh everyone's memory: Nils Lundkvist was selected by the New York Rangers in the first round of the 2018 NHL Entry Draft with the 28th overall pick. The Rangers obtained the pick from the Tampa Bay Lightning as part of the deal for Ryan McDonagh and J.T. Miller. It was the Rangers' 3rd of 3 first round picks in the 2018 draft. They selected Vitali Kravtsov with the 9th overall pick (their own) and selected K'Andre Miller with the 22nd overall pick, which had come to the Rangers in a roundabout way as a result of the Rick Nash trade to the Boston Bruins (on draft day the Rangers traded the Bruins' 26th pick overall and the Devils' second round pick, obtained in the Michael Grabner deal, to the Penguins in exchange for the 22nd overall pick so they could draft Miller). It will be nice if the Rangers continue to reap rewards from the deal with the Lightning. In addition to the first round pick used to select Lundkvist, the Rangers also acquired in that deal Brett Howden, Libor Hajek, Vlad Namestnikov and a conditional first round pick in 2019. That pick was never finalized by the Rangers. Does anyone remember the conditions that applied? I seem to recall the Rangers may have been entitled to the additional first round pick in 2019 IF the Lightning won the Stanley Cup in 2018, the year the deal was made for McDonagh and Miller, but I'm not sure. Double R, I'm glad to see you included the name of Matthew Robertson among the Rangers' defensive prospects. I have a good feeling about this kid. He was selected with the 49th overall pick in the 2019 draft by the Rangers, the exact same pick that was used by the Bruins to select Ryan Lindgren in 2016 (49). The Robertson pick was obtained from the Dallas Stars in exchange for Mats Zuccarello. I also had a good feeling about Lindgren when he was obtained by the Rangers, and a good feeling about Ryan McDonagh when he came to Rangers training camp as an unknown. I told my friends "Watch this McDonagh kid, he's going to be a good one." McDonagh didn't make the team out of training camp, but was called up around mid-season due to injuries on the Rangers blue line - and the rest, as they say, is history. When defenseman Michal Rozsival was ready to return from injury he had become expendable because McDonagh had won the spot in the Rangers' lineup. Watch this Robertson kid, he's going to be a good one. |
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Post by Double R on Oct 2, 2020 12:40:23 GMT -5
Nils looks like he's going to be a big part of the Rangers youth on the blueline, along with Miller, Lindgren, DeAngelo, Fox, Robertson, etc. Just to refresh everyone's memory: Nils Lundkvist was selected by the New York Rangers in the first round of the 2018 NHL Entry Draft with the 28th overall pick. The Rangers obtained the pick from the Tampa Bay Lightning as part of the deal for Ryan McDonagh and J.T. Miller. It was the Rangers' 3rd of 3 first round picks in the 2018 draft. They selected Vitali Kravtsov with the 9th overall pick (their own) and selected K'Andre Miller with the 22nd overall pick, which had come to the Rangers in a roundabout way as a result of the Rick Nash trade to the Boston Bruins (on draft day the Rangers traded the Bruins' 26th pick overall and the Devils' second round pick, obtained in the Michael Grabner deal, to the Penguins in exchange for the 22nd overall pick so they could draft Miller). It will be nice if the Rangers continue to reap rewards from the deal with the Lightning. In addition to the first round pick used to select Lundkvist, the Rangers also acquired in that deal Brett Howden, Libor Hajek, Vlad Namestnikov and a conditional first round pick in 2019. That pick was never finalized by the Rangers. Does anyone remember the conditions that applied? I seem to recall the Rangers may have been entitled to the additional first round pick in 2019 IF the Lightning won the Stanley Cup in 2018, the year the deal was made for McDonagh and Miller, but I'm not sure. Double R, I'm glad to see you included the name of Matthew Robertson among the Rangers' defensive prospects. I have a good feeling about this kid. He was selected with the 49th overall pick in the 2019 draft by the Rangers, the exact same pick that was used by the Bruins to select Ryan Lindgren in 2016 (49). The Robertson pick was obtained from the Dallas Stars in exchange for Mats Zuccarello. I also had a good feeling about Lindgren when he was obtained by the Rangers, and a good feeling about Ryan McDonagh when he came to Rangers training camp as an unknown. I told my friends "Watch this McDonagh kid, he's going to be a good one." McDonagh didn't make the team out of training camp, but was called up around mid-season due to injuries on the Rangers blue line - and the rest, as they say, is history. When defenseman Michal Rozsival was ready to return from injury he had become expendable because McDonagh had won the spot in the Rangers' lineup. Watch this Robertson kid, he's going to be a good one. I'm very excited about Matt Robertson. He's a big hard-hitting defenseman with skill. As Ranger fans, we have all been looking for a modern day version of Jeff Beukeboom for a long time now. Perhaps Robertson could be it. Let's hope so.
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 2, 2020 14:29:09 GMT -5
Dont sleep on Zac Jones.He had a monster freshman season at U-Mass and was terrific at the World Juniors.Tarmo Reunanen is also highly thought of by management.
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 2, 2020 18:39:04 GMT -5
Our prospects on the blue line are extremely promising.in my lifetime i cant remember our entire prospect pool being as deep as it is..and its very exciting for the long term future and success for us
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Post by NoMore1940 on Oct 2, 2020 19:51:21 GMT -5
Dont sleep on Zac Jones.He had a monster freshman season at U-Mass and was terrific at the World Juniors.Tarmo Reunanen is also highly thought of by management. Zac Jones measures in at 5' 10" and weighs 172 lbs. IMO that's not big enough to play defense in the NHL. |
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 2, 2020 21:08:23 GMT -5
Dont sleep on Zac Jones.He had a monster freshman season at U-Mass and was terrific at the World Juniors.Tarmo Reunanen is also highly thought of by management. Zac Jones measures in at 5' 10" and weighs 172 lbs. IMO that's not big enough to play defense in the NHL. Its a pretty debatable opinion.plenty of "undersized" players have not only played defense in the league but played it well.Our own Adam Fox is 5 ft 11 181 pounds.Hell,Leetch wasnt big by any means and carved out a HOF career.If you got the smarts and skill,size shouldnt be an issue. |
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Post by NoMore1940 on Oct 2, 2020 23:04:24 GMT -5
Zac Jones measures in at 5' 10" and weighs 172 lbs. IMO that's not big enough to play defense in the NHL. Its a pretty debatable opinion.plenty of "undersized" players have not only played defense in the league but played it well.Our own Adam Fox is 5 ft 11 181 pounds.Hell,Leetch wasnt big by any means and carved out a HOF career.If you got the smarts and skill,size shouldnt be an issue. Brian Leetch was 6 foot, 185 lbs. - 2 inches taller and 13 pounds heavier than Zac Jones. Adam Fox is an inch taller and 9 pounds heavier than Jones. Smarts and skill aren't everything in the NHL, especially on defense. Defensemen also need size and strength. There's an old adage: "You can't teach SIZE". In a physical contact sport, size is an issue. The average height and weight among current NHL players is 6' 1" (73.1") tall, 199 lbs. The average defenseman is 73.7" tall, 203 lbs. So the average player in the NHL is 3 inches taller and 27 lbs. heavier than Jones. Among current NHL players, there are a few notable defensemen who are 5' 10" or shorter, but not many: Torey Krug, Jared Spurgeon (5' 9"); Will Butcher, Tyson Barrie, Ryan Ellis (5' 10"). There are several others but none who will shake the ground you walk on. |
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 2, 2020 23:35:28 GMT -5
Its a pretty debatable opinion.plenty of "undersized" players have not only played defense in the league but played it well.Our own Adam Fox is 5 ft 11 181 pounds.Hell,Leetch wasnt big by any means and carved out a HOF career.If you got the smarts and skill,size shouldnt be an issue. Brian Leetch was 6 foot, 185 lbs. - 2 inches taller and 13 pounds heavier than Zac Jones. Adam Fox is an inch taller and 9 pounds heavier than Jones. Smarts and skill aren't everything in the NHL, especially on defense. Defensemen also need size and strength. There's an old adage: "You can't teach SIZE". In a physical contact sport, size is an issue. The average height and weight among current NHL players is 6' 1" (73.1") tall, 199 lbs. The average defenseman is 73.7" tall, 203 lbs. So the average player in the NHL is 3 inches taller and 27 lbs. heavier than Jones. Among current NHL players, there are a few notable defensemen who are 5' 10" or shorter, but not many: Torey Krug, Jared Spurgeon (5' 9"); Will Butcher, Tyson Barrie, Ryan Ellis (5' 10"). There are several others but none who will shake the ground you walk on. I don't disagree that size helps,but it's not going to stop a player from playing in the league if they have the talent for it.Here's another good example-Quinn Hughes..5 ft 10 and 170 pounds.Size hasn't stopped him from making it in today's league.I think the size thing is a bit overblown,we have more "undersized" kids coming into the league every year and becoming impact players..both fowards and defenseman.Talent and good hockey sense can be enough to make it in todays game. |
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Post by NoMore1940 on Oct 3, 2020 0:13:37 GMT -5
Brian Leetch was 6 foot, 185 lbs. - 2 inches taller and 13 pounds heavier than Zac Jones. Adam Fox is an inch taller and 9 pounds heavier than Jones. Smarts and skill aren't everything in the NHL, especially on defense. Defensemen also need size and strength. There's an old adage: "You can't teach SIZE". In a physical contact sport, size is an issue. The average height and weight among current NHL players is 6' 1" (73.1") tall, 199 lbs. The average defenseman is 73.7" tall, 203 lbs. So the average player in the NHL is 3 inches taller and 27 lbs. heavier than Jones. Among current NHL players, there are a few notable defensemen who are 5' 10" or shorter, but not many: Torey Krug, Jared Spurgeon (5' 9"); Will Butcher, Tyson Barrie, Ryan Ellis (5' 10"). There are several others but none who will shake the ground you walk on. I don't disagree that size helps,but it's not going to stop a player from playing in the league if they have the talent for it.Here's another good example-Quinn Hughes..5 ft 10 and 170 pounds.Size hasn't stopped him from making it in today's league.I think the size thing is a bit overblown,we have more "undersized" kids coming into the league every year and becoming impact players..both fowards and defenseman.Talent and good hockey sense can be enough to make it in todays game. I meant to include Quinn Hughes when I listed current NHL defensemen who are 5' 10" or less but forgot to name him. I'll be following Zac Jones' collegiate career and hope for the best. Personally, I would rather see the Rangers lean towards building a big, strong, tall, heavy, physical defense with players like K'Andre Miller (6' 5", 210 lbs.), Matthew Robertson (6' 3", 203 lbs.), Yegor Rykov (6' 2", 210 lbs.) and Libor Hajek (6' 2", 203 lbs.). One thing I noticed while watching the NHL post-season was Lightning defenseman and Conn Smythe Trophy winner Victor Hedman's size (6' 6", 229 lbs.) and the length of the stick he played with, which gave him an incredible reach advantage. |
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 3, 2020 3:43:06 GMT -5
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Post by rangerfan4life74 on Oct 3, 2020 3:50:08 GMT -5
Kid likes to hit too.Size doesnt deter him from knocking someone on his ass
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Post by TonyG on Oct 3, 2020 14:53:39 GMT -5
Kid likes to hit too.Size doesnt deter him from knocking someone on his ass Awesome, Got to like this kid. |
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Post by bob01 on Oct 4, 2020 14:47:26 GMT -5
Sadly, that was a different age.
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Post by NoMore1940 on Oct 4, 2020 23:29:24 GMT -5
We only have to wait one more day and then we will have a few more Rangers prospects to watch. Tomorrow - October 6, 2020 - the first round of the 2020 NHL Entry Draft will be held and the Rangers have 2 picks, the first overall pick and the 22nd pick. On Wednesday (corrected), October 7th rounds 2 through 7 will be completed. The Rangers' second round pick was traded to the Carolina Hurricanes as part of the trade to acquire Adam Fox - a good deal IMO. The Rangers have 10 picks in this year's draft, barring any additional deals.
Alexis Lafreniere is the consensus top prospect available in this year's draft and is expected to be selected by the Rangers at number one. This is only the second time in history the Rangers have had the first overall pick since the Entry Draft was instituted in 1963. The Rangers had the first overall pick in 1965 (55 years ago) and selected Andre Veilleux, who never played a game in the NHL. It was a thin year for talent in that draft and only 11 picks were made by the Original 6 teams, with defenseman Pierre Bouchard being the only notable player selected, by the Montreal Canadiens.
To say I'm excited about this draft would be an understatement.
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