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Post by kc13 on Aug 28, 2018 19:09:21 GMT -5
My bad Slapper, I misread your post. It's all good, thanks for doing what you do.
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Post by delneggs on Aug 28, 2018 19:51:40 GMT -5
BTW delneggs, did you call Muhammad Ali a coward as well? Just wondering? Ridicules comparison. Ali had a moral objection based on his religious beliefs......Trump got a doctor to write him a note saying he had heel spurs or some other kind of nonsense. One of them had principles (Ali), and no one could call him a coward....at least not to his face...…….the other has no principles and is a coward through and through.
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Post by delneggs on Aug 28, 2018 19:53:55 GMT -5
Oh no, he reached across the aisle and was civil to people that he had political disagreements with.....what a bad man he was! And he stood up to nut jobs on the right that wanted to spew nothing but lies and racist bullshit about his opponent, and called him a good man he just didn't agree with politically.....my my, what a terrible guy he was. Forget he volunteered to serve this country in the military, fought in Vietnam, spend time as a POW enduring torture, thought about other POW's well being as well as his own, served the country in the senate for many years, and put his principles above politics at times even if meant bucking his own party...….bad, bad man. Let's instead follow a man that did everything he could to avoid serving this country during a time of war (because he is a coward), screwed almost everybody he ever did business with to the point US Banks wouldn't lend him a penny (because he has no honor or character), cheated on every wife he ever had (because he has no moral code), and lies about any and everything under the sun in a tireless self promotion of his own interests (because he is a compulsive liar and megalomaniac) and would sell the United States down the river to the highest bidder if it benefited himself or his family financially. Yeah.....he's a good man and McCain was the problem. Thinking John McCain was the problem is just about as foolish a thing I have ever heard in my life. Think what you want, but McCain wasn't the problem.....to find it.....look in the mirror. ---------------------------------------------------- Wow, what a pile of horseshit. Where exactly did I call him a bad man, or a terrible guy? He reached across the aisle to help the other side, did they ever reciprocate?? It was a two way street, I would bet the other side was whispering "sucker" under their breath every time he "reached". There's an interesting youtube video of an old POW/MIA issue discussed in the Senate where McCain's colleagues and people that served in Vietnam absolutely kill him, look it up. "would sell the United States down the river to the highest bidder if it benefited himself or his family financially." The utter stupidity of this statement cannot even be charted. Financial markets booming, hundreds of millions reaping the benefits of tax cuts, stopping the ridiculous practice of the US paying for everybody else on the world stage, picking judges who interpret the law instead of trying to write it, etc. Thank God he's there to prevent the left from shredding the Constitution, opening the borders to everyone, and then paying for their healthcare as well! Says it all when they pick a 20 something girl with about a 7th grade education to be the face of the party. slapper-kind of disappointed at your comments. After all the bitching about the MSG boards over the years, you're saying you're going to edit the board? We're all adults here, we can handle some discourse, can't we? The entire spirit of your post is how dare he work with democrats to get things done, and that is 100% of the problems we have today. You say democrats ruin this country and I say its people with attitudes like yourself who think they have all the answers and fuck those that disagree. Pure nonsense.
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Post by kc13 on Aug 28, 2018 20:49:16 GMT -5
BTW delneggs, did you call Muhammad Ali a coward as well? Just wondering? Ridicules comparison. Ali had a moral objection based on his religious beliefs......Trump got a doctor to write him a note saying he had heel spurs or some other kind of nonsense. One of them had principles (Ali), and no one could call him a coward....at least not to his face...…….the other has no principles and is a coward through and through. please, spare me....moral objection, now I've heard it all. Then you blow your whole argument up by saying no one could call him a coward to his face. Why is that, if he's strict to his "religion of peace", why would he resort to violence? Why would I want a member of my party working with an opposing party that puts non-citizens ahead of their countrymen? A party that wants to change our financial system to one that's created nothing but death and despair?
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Post by delneggs on Aug 28, 2018 22:07:11 GMT -5
Ridicules comparison. Ali had a moral objection based on his religious beliefs......Trump got a doctor to write him a note saying he had heel spurs or some other kind of nonsense. One of them had principles (Ali), and no one could call him a coward....at least not to his face...…….the other has no principles and is a coward through and through. please, spare me....moral objection, now I've heard it all. Then you blow your whole argument up by saying no one could call him a coward to his face. Why is that, if he's strict to his "religion of peace", why would he resort to violence? Why would I want a member of my party working with an opposing party that puts non-citizens ahead of their countrymen? A party that wants to change our financial system to one that's created nothing but death and despair? So true religious belief against taking another persons life is somehow bad in your world? I don't care if it's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or any other faith......following your faith in words AND PRACTICE is something more people should strive for. You think Trump has any true faith other than himself? Think again. And you shouldn't be a member of party that wants equal treatment under the law for all humans, because obviously you don't think that way. The only reason non-citizens (as you put it) are in this country is for cheap labor for huge corporations that make TONS OF PROFIT off their labor, so don't make into a democratic thing. Big business is a REPUBLICAN backer, and they are the ones that hire them and create the demand.....so wise up. Why do you think no republican president or congress has deported them all? Because the spineless democrats are in their way? Please! The democrats couldn't win a fight with a wet paper bag. It's because BIG BUSINESS wants their cheap labor. So go ahead.....deport them all and protect your fellow countryman from them......and then go try to find some white kids to harvest crops for $25 a day so you don't have to pay $20 for an ear of corn.
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Post by delneggs on Aug 28, 2018 22:18:29 GMT -5
Oh no, he reached across the aisle and was civil to people that he had political disagreements with.....what a bad man he was! And he stood up to nut jobs on the right that wanted to spew nothing but lies and racist bullshit about his opponent, and called him a good man he just didn't agree with politically.....my my, what a terrible guy he was. Forget he volunteered to serve this country in the military, fought in Vietnam, spend time as a POW enduring torture, thought about other POW's well being as well as his own, served the country in the senate for many years, and put his principles above politics at times even if meant bucking his own party...….bad, bad man. Let's instead follow a man that did everything he could to avoid serving this country during a time of war (because he is a coward), screwed almost everybody he ever did business with to the point US Banks wouldn't lend him a penny (because he has no honor or character), cheated on every wife he ever had (because he has no moral code), and lies about any and everything under the sun in a tireless self promotion of his own interests (because he is a compulsive liar and megalomaniac) and would sell the United States down the river to the highest bidder if it benefited himself or his family financially. Yeah.....he's a good man and McCain was the problem. Thinking John McCain was the problem is just about as foolish a thing I have ever heard in my life. Think what you want, but McCain wasn't the problem.....to find it.....look in the mirror. You give me hope delneggs. Its most refreshing to read a point of view that prioritizes integrity and decency from individuals who strive for power before being placed in a position that determines the future of the masses. G-d Bless you and much thanks! I for one didn't agree with John's politics but as a man and Patriot he was genuine and a model of character and strength for all young and old. Sadly there aren't many left in this tribal divisive society. Amen Lucky....he is part of a dying breed. I did not always agree with his politics and certainly didn't agree with his VP pick in 2008, but that doesn't mean I ever lost any respect for the man and what he did in his life for my country. He was an American Hero, regardless of what the "swiftboat" assholes on the right try to do to his reputation with their nonsense. It's disgusting to me that any man who sacrificed for this country the way he did could be disrespected by ANYONE who claims to loves this country and I will stand up an call them out every time they do. I do it out of respect for my father who fought in Korea and was wounded in combat but survived to go back to his unit and continue to fight for this country. Men like that deserve our admiration and respect, plain and simple in my mind.
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Post by lucky on Aug 30, 2018 15:03:21 GMT -5
Rest in peace. A man who served America with distinction and honor. Hey gal! Check your PM's!!!
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Post by kc13 on Sept 6, 2018 21:54:02 GMT -5
"I don't care if it's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or any other faith......following your faith in words AND PRACTICE is something more people should strive for."
Kudos for those muslims following their "faith" in their treatment of women and gays. Keep on striving!
BTW, after all their love of bipartisanship last week, dems went right back to crazy town at the Supreme Court hearing, huh? What a despicable performance!
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Post by delneggs on Sept 7, 2018 10:14:47 GMT -5
"I don't care if it's Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or any other faith......following your faith in words AND PRACTICE is something more people should strive for." Kudos for those muslims following their "faith" in their treatment of women and gays. Keep on striving! BTW, after all their love of bipartisanship last week, dems went right back to crazy town at the Supreme Court hearing, huh? What a despicable performance! Yeah, and kudos to all the Catholic priests following their "faith" while they molest little boys and their superiors all the way up to the pope cover for them. What a despicable performance!
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Post by kc13 on Sept 7, 2018 19:45:28 GMT -5
Totally expected that lame response, because Catholics support that right? Typical. But hey, some would have you believe ;"they sacrificed everything because they believed in something"
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Post by delneggs on Sept 7, 2018 20:18:48 GMT -5
Totally expected that lame response, because Catholics support that right? Typical. But hey, some would have you believe ;"they sacrificed everything because they believed in something" Talk about lame. You talk like all Muslims act the same, so why not all Catholics? Can't have it both ways. I take people 1 at a time, and don't give a shit what color they are, what god they pray too, and who they decide to love...…...none of that crap matter because everyone is different and no one should be defined by some group they associate themselves with. People should be judged on what they say and do in life, period. To think otherwise (like you) is lame. I know many, many Muslims that treat and respect women as well as anyone else on Earth.....they are not all the same despite your narrow mind and abundant ignorance.
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Post by kc13 on Sept 8, 2018 9:04:16 GMT -5
99.999999999999% of Catholics find what these priests did abhorrent. What percentage of muslims find the vile treatment of gays and women awful?
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Post by delneggs on Sept 8, 2018 17:27:35 GMT -5
99.999999999999% of Catholics find what these priests did abhorrent. What percentage of muslims find the vile treatment of gays and women awful? Really? And what have 99.99999999% of them done about it?  Priests worldwide are still molesting hundreds and thousands of little boys every day and their superiors within the Church are still systematically covering for and protecting them. If a Muslim Cleric did something like that, how long would he tolerated and protected within his church? Point is...……...there are good and bad in every group of people....EVERY GROUP. There are good Catholics and bad, good Muslims and bad, good Jews and bad, good white people and bad, good black people and bad, ect., ect., ect, …………..so when you disparage an entire group for what some within that group do, you show your ignorance. And maybe you should re-read the bible and take note of the opinions in their about women.
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Post by kc13 on Sept 9, 2018 8:51:02 GMT -5
I agree about the superiors not doing anything. Maybe if the pope did his job and worried less about global warming and who is building border walls? What you're not getting is that these awful things aren't being done in the name of religion, unlike what the muslims do.
"If a Muslim Cleric did something like that, how long would he tolerated and protected within his church? " Are you kidding, there are clerics all over the world that call for the death of the infidels, aka, any non-Muslims. Gets tolerated by millions and millions
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Post by delneggs on Sept 10, 2018 9:41:39 GMT -5
People have been killing in the name of their religions since the dawn of time. Look at Ireland and N. Ireland for example. It's not just a Muslim problem.
And you are missing that the molestation of little boys by priests has been going on for hundreds if not thousands of years, and the Church has been protecting these pedophiles the entire time, which means they condone what they do. The Catholic Church condones pedophilia via their actions, so their words mean nothing. If 99.99999% of all Catholics find that abhorrent, they should stop it dead in its tracks. How? Stop going to church and donating money every week. Force them to admit the problem and change the way they do things AND turn over these monsters to authorities so they can be prosecuted. BUT.....they do nothing but act morally outranged...…..wow....that sure will solve the problem.
Fanatical Muslims have some really stupid ideas about the world for sure. But not every Muslim is a fanatic. That's the difference between us......despite what the Church does, I can say not all Catholic Priests are child molesters.
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